From mel at thestack.co  Thu Oct  1 08:20:50 2015
From: mel at thestack.co (Mel Boyce)
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2015 16:20:50 +1000
Subject: Password management et al
Message-ID: <1443680450.3205603.398303145.62B51F6A@webmail.messagingengine.com>

Hey guys,

What's the story with password management in Qutebrowser? i.e.,
remembering them?

Also, some sites I use (basic challenge) "forget" my authentication
after some number of minutes - something I hadn't noticed in dwb and
certainly doesn't happen in FF.

-- 
Mel Boyce
thestack.co


From me at the-compiler.org  Thu Oct  1 08:28:18 2015
From: me at the-compiler.org (Florian Bruhin)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 08:28:18 +0200
Subject: Password management et al
In-Reply-To: <1443680450.3205603.398303145.62B51F6A@webmail.messagingengine.com>
References: <1443680450.3205603.398303145.62B51F6A@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <20151001062818.GF22874@tonks>

Hey Mel,

* Mel Boyce <mel at thestack.co> [2015-10-01 16:20:50 +1000]:
> What's the story with password management in Qutebrowser? i.e.,
> remembering them?

There's currently an userscript in development which integrates with
'pass':

https://github.com/The-Compiler/qutebrowser/pull/873

The author (which also is on this list, I believe) told me he wanted
to work a bit more on it before merging, so it's not merged yet.

As soon as there's plugin support in qutebrowser (which will still
take a few months, unfortunately), I plan to write plugins to directly
integrate KeePassX, pass, and probably others:

https://github.com/The-Compiler/qutebrowser/issues/30
https://github.com/The-Compiler/qutebrowser/issues/180

> Also, some sites I use (basic challenge) "forget" my authentication
> after some number of minutes - something I hadn't noticed in dwb and
> certainly doesn't happen in FF.

Dou you have a publicly accessible example somewhere? I never had any
issues with Icinga, cups, and some other things.

Also, what Qt version? (see :open qute:version)

Florian

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From mel at thestack.co  Thu Oct  1 09:28:01 2015
From: mel at thestack.co (Mel Boyce)
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2015 17:28:01 +1000
Subject: Password management et al
In-Reply-To: <20151001062818.GF22874@tonks>
References: <1443680450.3205603.398303145.62B51F6A@webmail.messagingengine.com>
 <20151001062818.GF22874@tonks>
Message-ID: <1443684481.3224504.398338561.0F183EF7@webmail.messagingengine.com>

On Thu, Oct 1, 2015, at 16:28, Florian Bruhin wrote:
> Hey Mel,
> 
> * Mel Boyce <mel at thestack.co> [2015-10-01 16:20:50 +1000]:
> > What's the story with password management in Qutebrowser? i.e.,
> > remembering them?
> 
> There's currently an userscript in development which integrates with
> 'pass':
> 
> https://github.com/The-Compiler/qutebrowser/pull/873
> 
> The author (which also is on this list, I believe) told me he wanted
> to work a bit more on it before merging, so it's not merged yet.
> 
> As soon as there's plugin support in qutebrowser (which will still
> take a few months, unfortunately), I plan to write plugins to directly
> integrate KeePassX, pass, and probably others:
> 
> https://github.com/The-Compiler/qutebrowser/issues/30
> https://github.com/The-Compiler/qutebrowser/issues/180
> 
> > Also, some sites I use (basic challenge) "forget" my authentication
> > after some number of minutes - something I hadn't noticed in dwb and
> > certainly doesn't happen in FF.
> 
> Dou you have a publicly accessible example somewhere? I never had any
> issues with Icinga, cups, and some other things.
> 
> Also, what Qt version? (see :open qute:version)
> 
> Florian

Hey Florian,

I'm on QT 5.5 (Arch Linux).

I don't have examples for my timeout problem, but the ones I've observed
are Windows web servers which initially present an NTLM challenge (work
garbage) and then fall-back to basic. I'll see what I can figure out
when I'm back in the office.

A userscript sounds perfectly fine for my password situation (until
plugins are available) so I'll take a look at adapting that one to my
needs.

As an aside, how should desktop notifications work from my perspective?
I answer "y" when an application requests access, but I don't seem to
see any notifications and refreshing the page requires me to enable
again.


From z1693060 at students.niu.edu  Fri Oct 23 05:55:08 2015
From: z1693060 at students.niu.edu (Abraham Baker)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 22:55:08 -0500
Subject: Slow Qutebrowser
Message-ID: <CAJkSvUrkUiXQP7GrTXyb6mNAzW__tsgXJQSafsZuhHi9yTZ2Ng@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Today I was composing an email in Gmail when the browser slowed to the
point of being barely useable.  I took a screenshot of htop (username
redacted):


I closed qutebrowser and killed the remaining processes using htop, and now
qutebrowser is working at full speed again (though the swap hasn't fully
emptied yet).

I'm using qutebrowser-git on Arch, and I updated recently (though I didn't
see qutebrowser in the list of updates on the last update).

Is there anything in a recent update or something I might be inadvertently
doing that would cause this to happen?

Thanks,
Abe Baker
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From me at the-compiler.org  Fri Oct 23 06:42:16 2015
From: me at the-compiler.org (Florian Bruhin)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 06:42:16 +0200
Subject: Slow Qutebrowser
In-Reply-To: <CAJkSvUrkUiXQP7GrTXyb6mNAzW__tsgXJQSafsZuhHi9yTZ2Ng@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJkSvUrkUiXQP7GrTXyb6mNAzW__tsgXJQSafsZuhHi9yTZ2Ng@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20151023044216.GB5929@tonks>

Hey,

* Abraham Baker <z1693060 at students.niu.edu> [2015-10-22 22:55:08 -0500]:
> Today I was composing an email in Gmail when the browser slowed to the
> point of being barely useable.  I took a screenshot of htop (username
> redacted):
> 
> 
> I closed qutebrowser and killed the remaining processes using htop, and now
> qutebrowser is working at full speed again (though the swap hasn't fully
> emptied yet).
> 
> I'm using qutebrowser-git on Arch, and I updated recently (though I didn't
> see qutebrowser in the list of updates on the last update).
> 
> Is there anything in a recent update or something I might be inadvertently
> doing that would cause this to happen?

Those kind of things are typically bugs in QtWebKit, the underlying
rendering engine - not in qutebrowser itself. What Qt version are you
using? (See :open qute:version).

There was an issue regarding extreme memory consumption fixed with
Qt 5.4.2 - so if you're on that or something newer, I have no idea how
this happened.

I'm sorry I can't help you much - things hopefully will get a lot
better in the future with the QtWebEngine/Chromium backend:

https://github.com/The-Compiler/qutebrowser/issues/666

Florian

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From z1693060 at students.niu.edu  Fri Oct 23 14:08:39 2015
From: z1693060 at students.niu.edu (Abraham Baker)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 07:08:39 -0500
Subject: Slow Qutebrowser
In-Reply-To: <20151023044216.GB5929@tonks>
References: <CAJkSvUrkUiXQP7GrTXyb6mNAzW__tsgXJQSafsZuhHi9yTZ2Ng@mail.gmail.com>
 <20151023044216.GB5929@tonks>
Message-ID: <CAJkSvUrP_pxxDLpq1A9NRT_xYarx=dqhOLmszDet_NJ3jwsGkQ@mail.gmail.com>

This is strange: I thought I already updated qutebrowser, but it still
shows up as version v0.4.0.  I'm using pacaur to keep it up to date; maybe
this is a bad idea?  I'll try updating again and see what happens.


qutebrowser v0.4.0
Git commit: v0.4.0-220-g55efd13 (2015-10-04 18:33:37 +0200)

CPython: 3.5.0
Qt: 5.5.0, runtime: 5.5.1
PyQt: 5.5
Style: QFusionStyle
Desktop: None
sip: 4.16.9
colorlog: no
colorama: no
pypeg2: 2.15
jinja2: 2.8
pygments: 2.0.2
yaml: 3.11
Webkit: 538.1
Harfbuzz: old
SSL: OpenSSL 1.0.2d 9 Jul 2015

Frozen: False
Platform: Linux-4.2.3-1-ARCH-x86_64-with-arch, 64bit


On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 11:42 PM, Florian Bruhin <me at the-compiler.org>
wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
> * Abraham Baker <z1693060 at students.niu.edu> [2015-10-22 22:55:08 -0500]:
> > Today I was composing an email in Gmail when the browser slowed to the
> > point of being barely useable.  I took a screenshot of htop (username
> > redacted):
> >
> >
> > I closed qutebrowser and killed the remaining processes using htop, and
now
> > qutebrowser is working at full speed again (though the swap hasn't fully
> > emptied yet).
> >
> > I'm using qutebrowser-git on Arch, and I updated recently (though I
didn't
> > see qutebrowser in the list of updates on the last update).
> >
> > Is there anything in a recent update or something I might be
inadvertently
> > doing that would cause this to happen?
>
> Those kind of things are typically bugs in QtWebKit, the underlying
> rendering engine - not in qutebrowser itself. What Qt version are you
> using? (See :open qute:version).
>
> There was an issue regarding extreme memory consumption fixed with
> Qt 5.4.2 - so if you're on that or something newer, I have no idea how
> this happened.
>
> I'm sorry I can't help you much - things hopefully will get a lot
> better in the future with the QtWebEngine/Chromium backend:
>
> https://github.com/The-Compiler/qutebrowser/issues/666
>
> Florian
>
> --
> http://www.the-compiler.org | me at the-compiler.org (Mail/XMPP)
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From z1693060 at students.niu.edu  Fri Oct 23 14:17:16 2015
From: z1693060 at students.niu.edu (Abraham Baker)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 07:17:16 -0500
Subject: Slow Qutebrowser
In-Reply-To: <CAJkSvUrP_pxxDLpq1A9NRT_xYarx=dqhOLmszDet_NJ3jwsGkQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJkSvUrkUiXQP7GrTXyb6mNAzW__tsgXJQSafsZuhHi9yTZ2Ng@mail.gmail.com>
 <20151023044216.GB5929@tonks>
 <CAJkSvUrP_pxxDLpq1A9NRT_xYarx=dqhOLmszDet_NJ3jwsGkQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJkSvUpMeJojV9fkQGnLwnchRqX8aqxWLcXQmEvbB=HT9jtAiA@mail.gmail.com>

I ran pacaur, and while the non-AUR packages upgraded well, there was
apparently 'nothing to do'  for the AUR packages even though I have a
(slightly) older qutebrowser.

On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 7:08 AM, Abraham Baker <z1693060 at students.niu.edu>
wrote:

> This is strange: I thought I already updated qutebrowser, but it still
> shows up as version v0.4.0.  I'm using pacaur to keep it up to date; maybe
> this is a bad idea?  I'll try updating again and see what happens.
>
>
> qutebrowser v0.4.0
> Git commit: v0.4.0-220-g55efd13 (2015-10-04 18:33:37 +0200)
>
> CPython: 3.5.0
> Qt: 5.5.0, runtime: 5.5.1
> PyQt: 5.5
> Style: QFusionStyle
> Desktop: None
> sip: 4.16.9
> colorlog: no
> colorama: no
> pypeg2: 2.15
> jinja2: 2.8
> pygments: 2.0.2
> yaml: 3.11
> Webkit: 538.1
> Harfbuzz: old
> SSL: OpenSSL 1.0.2d 9 Jul 2015
>
> Frozen: False
> Platform: Linux-4.2.3-1-ARCH-x86_64-with-arch, 64bit
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 11:42 PM, Florian Bruhin <me at the-compiler.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hey,
> >
> > * Abraham Baker <z1693060 at students.niu.edu> [2015-10-22 22:55:08 -0500]:
> > > Today I was composing an email in Gmail when the browser slowed to the
> > > point of being barely useable.  I took a screenshot of htop (username
> > > redacted):
> > >
> > >
> > > I closed qutebrowser and killed the remaining processes using htop,
> and now
> > > qutebrowser is working at full speed again (though the swap hasn't
> fully
> > > emptied yet).
> > >
> > > I'm using qutebrowser-git on Arch, and I updated recently (though I
> didn't
> > > see qutebrowser in the list of updates on the last update).
> > >
> > > Is there anything in a recent update or something I might be
> inadvertently
> > > doing that would cause this to happen?
> >
> > Those kind of things are typically bugs in QtWebKit, the underlying
> > rendering engine - not in qutebrowser itself. What Qt version are you
> > using? (See :open qute:version).
> >
> > There was an issue regarding extreme memory consumption fixed with
> > Qt 5.4.2 - so if you're on that or something newer, I have no idea how
> > this happened.
> >
> > I'm sorry I can't help you much - things hopefully will get a lot
> > better in the future with the QtWebEngine/Chromium backend:
> >
> > https://github.com/The-Compiler/qutebrowser/issues/666
> >
> > Florian
> >
> > --
> > http://www.the-compiler.org | me at the-compiler.org (Mail/XMPP)
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From me at the-compiler.org  Fri Oct 23 14:23:26 2015
From: me at the-compiler.org (Florian Bruhin)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 14:23:26 +0200
Subject: Slow Qutebrowser
In-Reply-To: <CAJkSvUpMeJojV9fkQGnLwnchRqX8aqxWLcXQmEvbB=HT9jtAiA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJkSvUrkUiXQP7GrTXyb6mNAzW__tsgXJQSafsZuhHi9yTZ2Ng@mail.gmail.com>
 <20151023044216.GB5929@tonks>
 <CAJkSvUrP_pxxDLpq1A9NRT_xYarx=dqhOLmszDet_NJ3jwsGkQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJkSvUpMeJojV9fkQGnLwnchRqX8aqxWLcXQmEvbB=HT9jtAiA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20151023122326.GH5929@tonks>

* Abraham Baker <z1693060 at students.niu.edu> [2015-10-23 07:17:16 -0500]:
> I ran pacaur, and while the non-AUR packages upgraded well, there was
> apparently 'nothing to do'  for the AUR packages even though I have a
> (slightly) older qutebrowser.

Do you have qutebrowser or qutebrowser-git installed? This seems to
suggest -git:

> qutebrowser v0.4.0
> Git commit: v0.4.0-220-g55efd13 (2015-10-04 18:33:37 +0200)

For git packages, you usually have to take care of rebuilding them
yourself, as there's no easy way for the AUR agent to figure out if it
was updated (short of cloning the repo and comparing the versions, but
I don't think any AUR agent does that).

For qutebrowser, there are new commits almost daily ;)

Florian

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From z1693060 at students.niu.edu  Fri Oct 23 14:27:15 2015
From: z1693060 at students.niu.edu (Abraham Baker)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 07:27:15 -0500
Subject: Slow Qutebrowser
In-Reply-To: <20151023122326.GH5929@tonks>
References: <CAJkSvUrkUiXQP7GrTXyb6mNAzW__tsgXJQSafsZuhHi9yTZ2Ng@mail.gmail.com>
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I will backup my settings and try switching to the non-git version since
that sounds current enough for my purposes.

Is there anything special that I have to do besides backing up before
switching?

Thanks for all the help!

Abe

On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 7:23 AM, Florian Bruhin <me at the-compiler.org> wrote:

> * Abraham Baker <z1693060 at students.niu.edu> [2015-10-23 07:17:16 -0500]:
> > I ran pacaur, and while the non-AUR packages upgraded well, there was
> > apparently 'nothing to do'  for the AUR packages even though I have a
> > (slightly) older qutebrowser.
>
> Do you have qutebrowser or qutebrowser-git installed? This seems to
> suggest -git:
>
> > qutebrowser v0.4.0
> > Git commit: v0.4.0-220-g55efd13 (2015-10-04 18:33:37 +0200)
>
> For git packages, you usually have to take care of rebuilding them
> yourself, as there's no easy way for the AUR agent to figure out if it
> was updated (short of cloning the repo and comparing the versions, but
> I don't think any AUR agent does that).
>
> For qutebrowser, there are new commits almost daily ;)
>
> Florian
>
> --
> http://www.the-compiler.org | me at the-compiler.org (Mail/XMPP)
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From me at the-compiler.org  Fri Oct 23 14:37:05 2015
From: me at the-compiler.org (Florian Bruhin)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 14:37:05 +0200
Subject: Slow Qutebrowser
In-Reply-To: <CAJkSvUpdR42u4S0zxXZ_+Dog6AECNHpshy+UgoLbAK8-fJYYFg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJkSvUrkUiXQP7GrTXyb6mNAzW__tsgXJQSafsZuhHi9yTZ2Ng@mail.gmail.com>
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* Abraham Baker <z1693060 at students.niu.edu> [2015-10-23 07:27:15 -0500]:
> I will backup my settings and try switching to the non-git version since
> that sounds current enough for my purposes.

Yeah, you aren't missing out on *that* much:

https://github.com/The-Compiler/qutebrowser/blob/master/CHANGELOG.asciidoc#v050-unreleased

> Is there anything special that I have to do besides backing up before
> switching?

Prepare to get an error thrown at you for every now unknown config
option - might want to start with --relaxed-config and then do :save
to make things easier.

> Thanks for all the help!

You're welcome!

Florian

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From twodopeshaggy at gmail.com  Fri Oct 23 14:35:13 2015
From: twodopeshaggy at gmail.com (Johnathan Jenkins)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 05:35:13 -0700
Subject: Slow Qutebrowser
In-Reply-To: <20151023122326.GH5929@tonks>
References: <CAJkSvUrkUiXQP7GrTXyb6mNAzW__tsgXJQSafsZuhHi9yTZ2Ng@mail.gmail.com>
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 <20151023122326.GH5929@tonks>
Message-ID: <20151023123513.GA20120@caritas>

If your indeed using pacaur and qutebrowser-git package. It would be ideal to
update using:

pacaur -Syua --devel --needed

It updates all -git packages, I suggest reading the man page a bit and setting
up a cache dir so that the updates are faster as it keeps a local git repo for
the package. Tho not perfect its normally pretty solid setup.
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From z1693060 at students.niu.edu  Sat Oct 24 03:00:19 2015
From: z1693060 at students.niu.edu (Abraham Baker)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 20:00:19 -0500
Subject: Slow Qutebrowser
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Hi,

Using pacaur -Syua --devel --needed worked (now at version 0.4.1), though
the update worked fast enough for me, so I'll skip making the local repo
cache for now.

Is there any downside to running pacaur -Syua without running pacamn -Syu
first?  E.g. if an AUR package depends on a non-AUR package would pacaur
automatically recognize this and update that too?  Would there be any
downside to just running pacaur -Syu --devel --needed?


On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 7:37 AM, Florian Bruhin <me at the-compiler.org> wrote:

> * Abraham Baker <z1693060 at students.niu.edu> [2015-10-23 07:27:15 -0500]:
> > I will backup my settings and try switching to the non-git version since
> > that sounds current enough for my purposes.
>
> Yeah, you aren't missing out on *that* much:
>
>
> https://github.com/The-Compiler/qutebrowser/blob/master/CHANGELOG.asciidoc#v050-unreleased
>
> > Is there anything special that I have to do besides backing up before
> > switching?
>
> Prepare to get an error thrown at you for every now unknown config
> option - might want to start with --relaxed-config and then do :save
> to make things easier.
>
> > Thanks for all the help!
>
> You're welcome!
>
> Florian
>
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From twodopeshaggy at gmail.com  Sat Oct 24 03:16:05 2015
From: twodopeshaggy at gmail.com (Johnathan Jenkins)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 18:16:05 -0700
Subject: Slow Qutebrowser
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On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 08:00:19PM -0500, Abraham Baker wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Using pacaur -Syua --devel --needed worked (now at version 0.4.1), though
> the update worked fast enough for me, so I'll skip making the local repo
> cache for now.
> 
> Is there any downside to running pacaur -Syua without running pacamn -Syu
> first?  E.g. if an AUR package depends on a non-AUR package would pacaur
> automatically recognize this and update that too?  Would there be any
> downside to just running pacaur -Syu --devel --needed?
> 
> 
Short answer, none that I'm aware of. Long answer.. no AUR helper is perfect and
depend issues can occur with any pacakge, be it in the aur or core repos.
However to the best of my knowledge just running >pacaur -Syu --devel --needed
won't do anything bad. Namely new depends like you said, it'll pull in updates
as needed like "normal".

The short of it tho, I check for updates once or twice a day with pacaur -Syu
for normal pacman/aur stuff with versioning. And once a day with >pacaur -Syu
--devel --needed because it can be slow. If you have 100+ -git packages it can
be pretty intense to wait for everything to download and compile. In the case of
qutebrowser I'd suggest reading the github page about changes time to time, in
case of changes in config or what have you. I've never had a problem myself
doing this.


You should not need to use pacaman unless things go wrong. It's safe to use
pacaur like this for the most part. And I'll add if you ever run into problems
feel free to e-mail me directly.

-- 
Johnathan Jenkins | "ShaggyTwoDope"
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